DirecTV HDTV and Tivo

[Gene on Long Island]

Ugh. I'm so annoyed. Upgrading to HDTV in my house, and now I have to choose
between Tivo, which I love, and DirecTV, which I also love. There doesn't
seem to be a way to make those two loves play together anymore, unless I use
the older technology. The new HDTV stuff will be in MPEG-4, which means the
old DirecTivo HD won't get those stations.

Why don't these two companies work something out? Hell, why doesn't DirecTV
just buy TIVO and settle it? I hate the thought of switching to Cable just to
keep my Tivo, and I hate the thought of settling for DirecTV's lousy HD DVR
just to keep my DirecTV.

There has to be a better way. :(

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Gene on Long Island > said:
>I hate the thought of switching to Cable just to
>keep my Tivo, and I hate the thought of settling for DirecTV's lousy HD DVR
>just to keep my DirecTV.

Make sure you complain to DirecTV. I told a rep that when it comes down
to a choice between TiVo and DirecTV, I will almost certainly choose
TiVo.

Now that DirecTV is under new ownership, there is always the slim chance
something could change.
--
Chris Adams >
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

[SINNER]

* Gene on Long Island wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> Ugh. I'm so annoyed. Upgrading to HDTV in my house, and now I have to
> choose between Tivo, which I love, and DirecTV, which I also love.

This is what has kept me from buying a new HD TV and generally making the
switch. I love my tivo and I love DTV.

> There doesn't seem to be a way to make those two loves play together
> anymore, unless I use the older technology. The new HDTV stuff will
> be in MPEG-4, which means the old DirecTivo HD won't get those
> stations.
>
> Why don't these two companies work something out? Hell, why doesn't
> DirecTV just buy TIVO and settle it?

Oh how I wish...

> I hate the thought of switching
> to Cable just to keep my Tivo,

Not worth it, the loss of a dual digitial live buffer is keeping me from
even considering that.

> and I hate the thought of settling for
> DirecTV's lousy HD DVR just to keep my DirecTV.

Ditto

>
> There has to be a better way. :(

Build your own, it seems its the only way.

--
David

[Charlie Hoffpauir]

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:59:29 GMT, (Gene on Long Island)
wrote:

>Ugh. I'm so annoyed. Upgrading to HDTV in my house, and now I have to choose
>between Tivo, which I love, and DirecTV, which I also love. There doesn't
>seem to be a way to make those two loves play together anymore, unless I use
>the older technology. The new HDTV stuff will be in MPEG-4, which means the
>old DirecTivo HD won't get those stations.
>
>Why don't these two companies work something out? Hell, why doesn't DirecTV
>just buy TIVO and settle it? I hate the thought of switching to Cable just to
>keep my Tivo, and I hate the thought of settling for DirecTV's lousy HD DVR
>just to keep my DirecTV.
>
>There has to be a better way. :(

Have you actually used the new DirecTV HD DVR? It's not equal to a
Tivo, but it really isn't as bad as some have indicated. I have one
installed alongside an HR10-250 (HD Tivo model) and the quality of the
recordings is equivalent, as is the guide info. the differences is in
some of the user interface items, and the fact that fast forward
doesn't include an automatic "backup", which makes it hard to skip
through commercials. One advantage of the HR20 over the HR10 is a
display bar that indicates the amount of drive space used/available. I
still prefer the HR10-250... but I want to keep the HR20 also because
it does a good job on the MPEG-4 programming, which for me is all the
locals.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

[Stephen Harris]

SINNER > wrote:


> * Gene on Long Island wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> > Ugh. I'm so annoyed. Upgrading to HDTV in my house, and now I have to
> > choose between Tivo, which I love, and DirecTV, which I also love.

> This is what has kept me from buying a new HD TV and generally making the
> switch. I love my tivo and I love DTV.

And it's why they might lose me as a customer in a month or so as I
get a large(ish) HD TV with my tax refund.

If I have to use a non-TiVo DVR then I might as well use the cruddy
Cablevision one and save money (since I already have cablemodem).
I only stuck with DirecTV all this time 'cos of the TiVo!

--
Stephen Harris

The truth is the truth, and opinion just opinion. But what is what?
My employer pays to ignore my opinions; you get to do it for free.

[MegaZone]

SINNER > shaped the electrons to say:
>Not worth it, the loss of a dual digitial live buffer is keeping me from
>even considering that.

You don't lose that with the Series3.

-MZ
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[SINNER]

* MegaZone wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> SINNER > shaped the electrons to say:
>>Not worth it, the loss of a dual digitial live buffer is keeping me from
>>even considering that.
>
> You don't lose that with the Series3.
>
> -MZ

So I can have both live buffers be fed from my DIGITAL DTV feeds? I dont
see that anywhere? If I want to go to Cable and pay for 2 cable cards, it
looks like I can do that. Did I misread something?

--
David

[Michelle P]

Gene on Long Island wrote:
> Ugh. I'm so annoyed. Upgrading to HDTV in my house, and now I have to choose
> between Tivo, which I love, and DirecTV, which I also love. There doesn't
> seem to be a way to make those two loves play together anymore, unless I use
> the older technology. The new HDTV stuff will be in MPEG-4, which means the
> old DirecTivo HD won't get those stations.
>
> Why don't these two companies work something out? Hell, why doesn't DirecTV
> just buy TIVO and settle it? I hate the thought of switching to Cable just to
> keep my Tivo, and I hate the thought of settling for DirecTV's lousy HD DVR
> just to keep my DirecTV.
>
> There has to be a better way. :(
>
If you really live on long island then the HR10-250 will work. Check to
see if you can get the "Local" New York, NY stations as national feeds.
Directv caries LA and New York stations for those who do have or cannot
get the Local Channels (like me).
Michelle

[Gene on Long Island]

In article >, Charlie Hoffpauir > wrote:

>Have you actually used the new DirecTV HD DVR? It's not equal to a
>Tivo, but it really isn't as bad as some have indicated. I have one
>installed alongside an HR10-250 (HD Tivo model) and the quality of the
>recordings is equivalent, as is the guide info. the differences is in
>some of the user interface items, and the fact that fast forward
>doesn't include an automatic "backup", which makes it hard to skip
>through commercials. One advantage of the HR20 over the HR10 is a
>display bar that indicates the amount of drive space used/available. I
>still prefer the HR10-250... but I want to keep the HR20 also because
>it does a good job on the MPEG-4 programming, which for me is all the
>locals.
>Charlie Hoffpauir


Charlie,
Yes, actually I have. A local Best Buy has one hooked up, and i played with
it for about 90 minutes a few weeks ago. Before that, I was at the CES show
in Las Vegas, found the DirecTV exhibit at Caesar's, and played with it there
- all while asking the DirecTV people if they had lost their minds in losing
Tivo.

Yes, it's "ok", but it's not Tivo. It's clunky. I find the second button
click necessary to get to the guide to be very stupid - why should i need to
press a button twice to bring up a guide? One click and it brings me a choice
of guides - i don't want that. I also would miss the Tivo "suggestions", as
that frequently finds interesting things for me.

There are some nice features, but it's not a Tivo - the interface just isn't
very intuitive. I'll probably wind up settling for it, but i'm not happy
about it. And DirecTV probably knows that, and they don't give a crap. :(

Gene

[Gene on Long Island]

In article .net>, wrote:

>If you really live on long island then the HR10-250 will work. Check to
>see if you can get the "Local" New York, NY stations as national feeds.
>Directv caries LA and New York stations for those who do have or cannot
>get the Local Channels (like me).
>Michelle

Michelle - I live on Long Island, and already get the locals from both New
York and Los Angeles as national feeds. I'm grandfathered in to that from way
back. The problem will be when the new HD channels start showing up later in
the year. They'll be using MPEG-4, and the old DirecTivo HD unit won't get
those. So when DirecTV launches the new birds and puts the new HD content up
there, i won't be getting it. That's where my problem is.

Thanks for the input.

Gene

[MegaZone]

SINNER > shaped the electrons to say:
>* MegaZone wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
>> SINNER > shaped the electrons to say:
>>>Not worth it, the loss of a dual digitial live buffer is keeping me from
>>>even considering that.
>> You don't lose that with the Series3.
>So I can have both live buffers be fed from my DIGITAL DTV feeds? I dont
>see that anywhere? If I want to go to Cable and pay for 2 cable cards, it
>looks like I can do that. Did I misread something?

Not DTV, but digital cable or antenna - you didn't say DTV just "dual
digital live buffer". The S3 won't support DirecTV *at all*. It only
works with cable and antenna.

-MZ
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[Bill Kearney]

> Have you actually used the new DirecTV HD DVR?

I have. It blows. The wife tried it and asked why does this not work like
the old one? THAT alone is good reason not to make the switch. It's not
even RELIABLE! Reboots, lost programming, missed recordings, etc. That
it's missing features makes it even less worthwhile. NO THANKS.

DirecTV has really ****ed up. They've taken the most loyal of customers and
given them a reason to leave DirecTV service entirely. Or maybe it's a
plan, they want to make the smart customers leave so they can abuse the dumb
ones with nonsense like leases and rate increases.

At this point two cablecards in an S3 Tivo using Verizon's FIOS service is
looking like a much better solution all around. The only thing that's
missing is multiroom viewing. That's never been a DirecTV feature anyway,
only available by hacking the unit. And I'm guessing that'll sort itself
out long before DirecTV wakes up from their mistake and resumes offering a
solution based on Tivo.

It's a shame, really, but I'm sure the other providers are raking in a whole
lot of new business because of DirecTV's mistake.

-Bill Kearney

[Wes Newell]

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:54:25 -0500, Bill Kearney wrote:

> At this point two cablecards in an S3 Tivo using Verizon's FIOS service is
> looking like a much better solution all around. The only thing that's
> missing is multiroom viewing.

Fios offers MRV with their Home Media DVR.

http://www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv/dvr/home+media+dvr.htm

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[Lou]

"Bill Kearney" <wkearney-99@hot-mail-com> wrote in message
t...
>> Have you actually used the new DirecTV HD DVR?
>
> I have. It blows. The wife tried it and asked why does
> this not work like
> the old one? THAT alone is good reason not to make the
> switch. It's not
> even RELIABLE! Reboots, lost programming, missed
> recordings, etc. That
> it's missing features makes it even less worthwhile. NO
> THANKS.
>
> DirecTV has really ****ed up. They've taken the most
> loyal of customers and
> given them a reason to leave DirecTV service entirely. Or
> maybe it's a
> plan, they want to make the smart customers leave so they
> can abuse the dumb
> ones with nonsense like leases and rate increases.
>
> At this point two cablecards in an S3 Tivo using Verizon's
> FIOS service is
> looking like a much better solution all around. The only
> thing that's
> missing is multiroom viewing. That's never been a DirecTV
> feature anyway,
> only available by hacking the unit. And I'm guessing
> that'll sort itself
> out long before DirecTV wakes up from their mistake and
> resumes offering a
> solution based on Tivo.
>
> It's a shame, really, but I'm sure the other providers are
> raking in a whole
> lot of new business because of DirecTV's mistake.
>
> -Bill Kearney
>

I thought about getting a new HD DVR and I asked my friend
about his new DirecTV HD DVR (he had a DirecTV Tivo) and he
has the same problems. He said he reboots it every few days
just so it will be a little more reliable.
I would probably only watch the HD channel that I can get
OTA so I am thinking out putting together a Media PC DVR.
Are there any ready made quality and quiet media PC's that
can do HD OTA?
If not then why? Is it a copyright problem?

[Charlie Hoffpauir]

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:54:25 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
<wkearney-99@hot-mail-com> wrote:

>> Have you actually used the new DirecTV HD DVR?
>
>I have. It blows. The wife tried it and asked why does this not work like
>the old one? THAT alone is good reason not to make the switch. It's not
>even RELIABLE! Reboots, lost programming, missed recordings, etc. That
>it's missing features makes it even less worthwhile. NO THANKS.
>
While I agree with a lot of what you say, I certainly can't agree with
this. Just because something isn't the same as something else doesn't
make it bad. Let's face it, change is inevitable. Even Tivo makes
changes, many of which we don't like (eliminating MRV capability, for
example).
I've read other reports of lost programming, missed recordings, etc.,
but thankfully, I'm not having those problems.

>DirecTV has really ****ed up. They've taken the most loyal of customers and
>given them a reason to leave DirecTV service entirely. Or maybe it's a
>plan, they want to make the smart customers leave so they can abuse the dumb
>ones with nonsense like leases and rate increases.
>
I agree with this. The DirecTV/Tivo combination produced one of the
finest DVRs I've seen, and I still have three of them. They are great.
why mess up such a good arrangement?

>At this point two cablecards in an S3 Tivo using Verizon's FIOS service is
>looking like a much better solution all around. The only thing that's
>missing is multiroom viewing. That's never been a DirecTV feature anyway,
>only available by hacking the unit. And I'm guessing that'll sort itself
>out long before DirecTV wakes up from their mistake and resumes offering a
>solution based on Tivo.
>
>It's a shame, really, but I'm sure the other providers are raking in a whole
>lot of new business because of DirecTV's mistake.
>
Actually, many of us have a very limited choice. For me, it's either
DirecTV or Dish Network... and Dish seems to be trying just as hard to
alienate customers and prospective sustomers as is DirecTV (for
example, the continuing court battle with Tivo, (leaving customers
with the possibility of NO DVR service).
>-Bill Kearney

Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

[Charlie Hoffpauir]

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:16:26 -0600, "Peter H. Coffin"
> wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:25:47 -0600, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:54:25 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
>><wkearney-99@hot-mail-com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Have you actually used the new DirecTV HD DVR?
>>>
>>>I have. It blows. The wife tried it and asked why does this not work like
>>>the old one? THAT alone is good reason not to make the switch. It's not
>>>even RELIABLE! Reboots, lost programming, missed recordings, etc. That
>>>it's missing features makes it even less worthwhile. NO THANKS.
>>>
>> While I agree with a lot of what you say, I certainly can't agree with
>> this. Just because something isn't the same as something else doesn't
>> make it bad. Let's face it, change is inevitable. Even Tivo makes
>> changes, many of which we don't like (eliminating MRV capability, for
>> example).
>
>Heh. Are you volunteering to explain this to Bill's wife? People,
>especially non-technical people, hate when technological things that
>they've got some measure of comfort with change.

LOL!
No, I don't even try explaining it to mine. She hates everything about
HDTV on DirecTV "except" the picture. She likes the DirecTivos that
receive STD Def, and can't understand why we don't just keep using
them and still get the nice picture we get on the big screen HDTV.
And she refuses to learn how to use the Harmony 880 that now controls
the TV, DVD player, DirecTivo, HR10 and HR20.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

[Mara]

I am in a similar situation having bought DirecTV after having using a
Hughes DirecTV compatible Tivo unit for a couple of years. Some people at
Best Buy have explained to me a way to use them both do you know anything
about this. My email is . Any suggestions would be
greatfully appreciated. Thank you.
"Gene on Long Island" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Charlie Hoffpauir
> > wrote:
>
>>Have you actually used the new DirecTV HD DVR? It's not equal to a
>>Tivo, but it really isn't as bad as some have indicated. I have one
>>installed alongside an HR10-250 (HD Tivo model) and the quality of the
>>recordings is equivalent, as is the guide info. the differences is in
>>some of the user interface items, and the fact that fast forward
>>doesn't include an automatic "backup", which makes it hard to skip
>>through commercials. One advantage of the HR20 over the HR10 is a
>>display bar that indicates the amount of drive space used/available. I
>>still prefer the HR10-250... but I want to keep the HR20 also because
>>it does a good job on the MPEG-4 programming, which for me is all the
>>locals.
>>Charlie Hoffpauir
>
>
> Charlie,
> Yes, actually I have. A local Best Buy has one hooked up, and i played
> with
> it for about 90 minutes a few weeks ago. Before that, I was at the CES
> show
> in Las Vegas, found the DirecTV exhibit at Caesar's, and played with it
> there
> - all while asking the DirecTV people if they had lost their minds in
> losing
> Tivo.
>
> Yes, it's "ok", but it's not Tivo. It's clunky. I find the second button
> click necessary to get to the guide to be very stupid - why should i need
> to
> press a button twice to bring up a guide? One click and it brings me a
> choice
> of guides - i don't want that. I also would miss the Tivo "suggestions",
> as
> that frequently finds interesting things for me.
>
> There are some nice features, but it's not a Tivo - the interface just
> isn't
> very intuitive. I'll probably wind up settling for it, but i'm not happy
> about it. And DirecTV probably knows that, and they don't give a crap.
> :(
>
> Gene

[Wes Newell]

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:34:11 -0800, Lou wrote:

> I thought about getting a new HD DVR and I asked my friend
> about his new DirecTV HD DVR (he had a DirecTV Tivo) and he
> has the same problems. He said he reboots it every few days
> just so it will be a little more reliable.
> I would probably only watch the HD channel that I can get
> OTA so I am thinking out putting together a Media PC DVR.
> Are there any ready made quality and quiet media PC's that
> can do HD OTA?
> If not then why? Is it a copyright problem?

There are pre-built media PC's, but they are expensive in comparison to
what you can build yourself. How many HD tuners do you want? I've got 4 in
my main box and another in a slave box. you can build a decent dual tuner
system for about $300. $500 will get you a really nice one.

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[Mike Hunt]

On 2007-02-10, Wes Newell > wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:54:25 -0500, Bill Kearney wrote:
>
>> At this point two cablecards in an S3 Tivo using Verizon's FIOS service is
>> looking like a much better solution all around. The only thing that's
>> missing is multiroom viewing.
>
> Fios offers MRV with their Home Media DVR.
>
> http://www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv/dvr/home+media+dvr.htm

True (although their MRV uses non-HD dummy set top boxes in the remote
rooms which can't do any DVR activities, unlike the TiVo solution where
they are full DVRs).

Also, the verizon MRV won't allow MRV of Hi-Def content.

So, really, the verizon solution is no different than S2 TiVos, and really
worse since they aren't even DVRs.

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[Charlie Hoffpauir]

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 05:09:12 GMT, "Mara" > wrote:

>I am in a similar situation having bought DirecTV after having using a
>Hughes DirecTV compatible Tivo unit for a couple of years. Some people at
>Best Buy have explained to me a way to use them both do you know anything
>about this. My email is . Any suggestions would be
>greatfully appreciated. Thank you.

I don't understand your question. I have a Hughes DirecTivo (Std
Definition DVR), an HR10 (Tivo HD DVR that works with DirecTV HD
content and locals OTA, if you can receive them in your location), and
a DirecTV HR20 DVR that receives DirecTV HD content including locals
via satellite. All are connected to my Samsung HDTV, and there is no
problem in using any of them.

Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

[Bill Kearney]

> While I agree with a lot of what you say, I certainly can't agree with
> this. Just because something isn't the same as something else doesn't
> make it bad. Let's face it, change is inevitable

Change for the sake of some jackass head of a company that was ****ed off
because he couldn't buy the thing outright is not my idea of acceptable,
helpful or even useful change. Murdoch tried to buy Tivo, they declined, so
now his spite is punishing DirecTV customers.

As the saying goes "don't **** on me and tell me it's raining".

> I agree with this. The DirecTV/Tivo combination produced one of the
> finest DVRs I've seen, and I still have three of them. They are great.
> why mess up such a good arrangement?

It's just another tragic misstep in a long line of them.

> Actually, many of us have a very limited choice. For me, it's either
> DirecTV or Dish Network... and Dish seems to be trying just as hard to
> alienate customers and prospective sustomers as is DirecTV (for
> example, the continuing court battle with Tivo, (leaving customers
> with the possibility of NO DVR service).

Dish has it's own sets of hassles, I agree.

[Steve Dell]

>
> LOL!
> No, I don't even try explaining it to mine. She hates everything about
> HDTV on DirecTV "except" the picture. She likes the DirecTivos that
> receive STD Def, and can't understand why we don't just keep using
> them and still get the nice picture we get on the big screen HDTV.
> And she refuses to learn how to use the Harmony 880 that now controls
> the TV, DVD player, DirecTivo, HR10 and HR20.

After much patient instruction on my part, and the fact that one of my dogs
ate the remote she used to use, she's now a convert to the 880.

Steve
Tucson AZ

[Bill Kearney]

> After much patient instruction on my part, and the fact that one of my
dogs
> ate the remote she used to use, she's now a convert to the 880.

What'd you have the smear on the remote to get Fido to gnaw on it?

We tried using the 880 but between the cheesy, cheap buttons, the smeary
looking screen and the horrible battery life we ditched it. Got the
Univeral MX-3000 instead. Not cheap but if you're going to spend TOO MUCH
ON a remote you might as well get something decent.

[RicSeyler]

MegaZone wrote:

>SINNER > shaped the electrons to say:
>
>
>>Not worth it, the loss of a dual digitial live buffer is keeping me from
>>even considering that.
>>
>>
>
>You don't lose that with the Series3.
>
>
Series 3 and DirecTV???????? Huh?

>-MZ
>
>

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I'm in the last throughs of waiting for my selected technologies
and specifications for my new Home Theater to come to market,
and I'm really really disappointed in DTV & TiVo's Flap....... ARRRGGGHHH
DAMMIT! LOLOLOLOL

Gene on Long Island wrote:

>Ugh. I'm so annoyed. Upgrading to HDTV in my house, and now I have to choose
>between Tivo, which I love, and DirecTV, which I also love. There doesn't
>seem to be a way to make those two loves play together anymore, unless I use
>the older technology. The new HDTV stuff will be in MPEG-4, which means the
>old DirecTivo HD won't get those stations.
>
>Why don't these two companies work something out? Hell, why doesn't DirecTV
>just buy TIVO and settle it? I hate the thought of switching to Cable just to
>keep my Tivo, and I hate the thought of settling for DirecTV's lousy HD DVR
>just to keep my DirecTV.
>
>There has to be a better way. :(
>
>
>

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[Mike Hunt]

On 2007-02-19, RicSeyler > wrote:
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>
>>SINNER > shaped the electrons to say:
>>
>>
>>>Not worth it, the loss of a dual digitial live buffer is keeping me from
>>>even considering that.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You don't lose that with the Series3.
>>
>>
> Series 3 and DirecTV???????? Huh?

dual digital live buffer, but not DirecTV

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RicSeyler > shaped the electrons to say:
>Series 3 and DirecTV???????? Huh?

The context was dumping DirecTV for cable.

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[Ric Seyler]

MegaZone wrote:

>RicSeyler > shaped the electrons to say:
>
>
>>Series 3 and DirecTV???????? Huh?
>>
>>
>
>The context was dumping DirecTV for cable.
>
>
>
Ah OK!
It's really too bad TiVo and DTV couldn't just get along :-)

>-MZ
>
>

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[karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net]

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:28:18 -0500, Ric Seyler
> wrote:

>
>
>MegaZone wrote:
>
>>RicSeyler > shaped the electrons to say:
>>
>>
>>>Series 3 and DirecTV???????? Huh?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The context was dumping DirecTV for cable.
>>
>>
>>
>Ah OK!
>It's really too bad TiVo and DTV couldn't just get along :-)
>
>>-MZ
>>
>>

They signed a 3 year renewal last year. DirecTv still pays TiVo every
monthfor every TiVo DirecTv enabled unit.

[Ric Seyler]

wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:28:18 -0500, Ric Seyler
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>MegaZone wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>RicSeyler > shaped the electrons to say:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Series 3 and DirecTV???????? Huh?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>The context was dumping DirecTV for cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Ah OK!
>>It's really too bad TiVo and DTV couldn't just get along :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>>-MZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>They signed a 3 year renewal last year. DirecTv still pays TiVo every
>monthfor every TiVo DirecTv enabled unit.
>
>
Geeze, I think everyone knew what I was talking about.......
Or are you saying that we consumers can get a DirecTiVo directly from
Direct TV again?

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[karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net]

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:59:14 -0500, Ric Seyler
> wrote:

>>They signed a 3 year renewal last year. DirecTv still pays TiVo every
>>monthfor every TiVo DirecTv enabled unit.
>>
>>
>Geeze, I think everyone knew what I was talking about.......
>Or are you saying that we consumers can get a DirecTiVo directly from
>Direct TV again?


No, I am saying if you already have a DirecTv receiver with TiVo, or
get one off Ebay, etc., DirecTv will continue to fully support it,
they even had updates for the new Daylight Savings Time for Series 2
Units.

[Jack Ak]

wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:59:14 -0500, Ric Seyler
> > wrote:
>
>
>>>They signed a 3 year renewal last year. DirecTv still pays TiVo every
>>>monthfor every TiVo DirecTv enabled unit.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Geeze, I think everyone knew what I was talking about.......
>>Or are you saying that we consumers can get a DirecTiVo directly from
>>Direct TV again?
>
>
>
> No, I am saying if you already have a DirecTv receiver with TiVo, or
> get one off Ebay, etc., DirecTv will continue to fully support it,
> they even had updates for the new Daylight Savings Time for Series 2
> Units.

DirecTV marketed "first" and "next" generation DirecTV DVRs with TiVo
software. Both generations received a Daylight Saving Time update.

The TiVo Series2 is a standalone DVR.

[Mike Hunt]

On 2007-04-24, > wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:59:14 -0500, Ric Seyler
> wrote:
>
>>>They signed a 3 year renewal last year. DirecTv still pays TiVo every
>>>monthfor every TiVo DirecTv enabled unit.
>>>
>>>
>>Geeze, I think everyone knew what I was talking about.......
>>Or are you saying that we consumers can get a DirecTiVo directly from
>>Direct TV again?
>
>
> No, I am saying if you already have a DirecTv receiver with TiVo, or
> get one off Ebay, etc., DirecTv will continue to fully support it,
> they even had updates for the new Daylight Savings Time for Series 2
> Units.

They have the new DST patch for Series 1 DirecTiVos too.

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