KCET LA now 720p ?

[G-squared]

I noticed this at work a couple of days ago. 28-1 used to be HD
content nearly all the time and an HD simulcast of 28-2 SD 480i
running the regular SD programming, same as 28 NTSC. The last few days
28-2 is black, 28-1 goes HD or SD up-rezzed to HD as needed. I just
now found it to be 720p rather than what it had been, 1080i. Anybody
know anything about this ?

GG

[Mark F[_2_]]

G-squared > wrote:

>I noticed this at work a couple of days ago. 28-1 used to be HD
>content nearly all the time and an HD simulcast of 28-2 SD 480i
>running the regular SD programming, same as 28 NTSC. The last few days
>28-2 is black, 28-1 goes HD or SD up-rezzed to HD as needed. I just
>now found it to be 720p rather than what it had been, 1080i. Anybody
>know anything about this ?
>
>GG

I saw this in the AVS forum regarding KCET's digital programming
changes, but it says nothing about their switch from 1080i to 720p:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10981004&&#post10981004

[Bob[_2_]]

"Mark F" > wrote in message
...
> G-squared > wrote:
>
>>I noticed this at work a couple of days ago. 28-1 used to be HD
>>content nearly all the time and an HD simulcast of 28-2 SD 480i
>>running the regular SD programming, same as 28 NTSC. The last few days
>>28-2 is black, 28-1 goes HD or SD up-rezzed to HD as needed. I just
>>now found it to be 720p rather than what it had been, 1080i. Anybody
>>know anything about this ?
>>
>>GG
>
> I saw this in the AVS forum regarding KCET's digital programming
> changes, but it says nothing about their switch from 1080i to 720p:
> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10981004&&#post10981004
>
>

Thanks for posting this. I was wondering what had happened, too. It looks
like we'll have to wait until August and see what they really do. For now,
it's KOCE, for me.

Bob

[Sam Spade]

Bob wrote:

>
> Thanks for posting this. I was wondering what had happened, too. It looks
> like we'll have to wait until August and see what they really do. For now,
> it's KOCE, for me.
>
> Bob
>
>
KOCE is a vast wasteland of marginal programming.

[Bob Miller]

G-squared wrote:
> I noticed this at work a couple of days ago. 28-1 used to be HD
> content nearly all the time and an HD simulcast of 28-2 SD 480i
> running the regular SD programming, same as 28 NTSC. The last few days
> 28-2 is black, 28-1 goes HD or SD up-rezzed to HD as needed. I just
> now found it to be 720p rather than what it had been, 1080i. Anybody
> know anything about this ?
>
> GG
>
Most broadcasters will upgrade to 720P eventually.

Bob Miller

[Jack Ak]

Sam Spade wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for posting this. I was wondering what had happened, too. It
>> looks like we'll have to wait until August and see what they really
>> do. For now, it's KOCE, for me.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
> KOCE is a vast wasteland of marginal programming.


That's true of most PBS programming, but when you watch
it in HD it is a better wasteland.

Marginal programming seems to attract viewers. Most KOCE
viewers are not watching the HD channels.

[G-squared]

On Jul 20, 8:51 am, jack ak > wrote:
> Sam Spade wrote:
> > Bob wrote:
>
> >> Thanks for posting this. I was wondering what had happened, too.
It
> >> looks like we'll have to wait until August and see what they
really
> >> do. For now, it's KOCE, for me.
>
> >> Bob
>
> > KOCE is a vast wasteland of marginal programming.
>
> That's true of most PBS programming, but when you watch
> it in HD it is a better wasteland.
>
> Marginal programming seems to attract viewers. Most KOCE
> viewers are not watching the HD channels.

It would help if their program listing were availble someplace besides
their website. Titan TV lists 50-1 as "travel, gardening and
documentaries". YahooTV even less.

GG

[phil-news-nospam@ipal.net]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:42:50 GMT Bob Miller > wrote:
| G-squared wrote:
|> I noticed this at work a couple of days ago. 28-1 used to be HD
|> content nearly all the time and an HD simulcast of 28-2 SD 480i
|> running the regular SD programming, same as 28 NTSC. The last few days
|> 28-2 is black, 28-1 goes HD or SD up-rezzed to HD as needed. I just
|> now found it to be 720p rather than what it had been, 1080i. Anybody
|> know anything about this ?
|>
|> GG
|>
| Most broadcasters will upgrade to 720P eventually.
|
| Bob Miller

Or maybe even 1080p in some cases.

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[Matthew L. Martin]

Bob Miller wrote:
> G-squared wrote:
>> I noticed this at work a couple of days ago. 28-1 used to be HD
>> content nearly all the time and an HD simulcast of 28-2 SD 480i
>> running the regular SD programming, same as 28 NTSC. The last few days
>> 28-2 is black, 28-1 goes HD or SD up-rezzed to HD as needed. I just
>> now found it to be 720p rather than what it had been, 1080i. Anybody
>> know anything about this ?
>>
>> GG
>>
> Most broadcasters will upgrade to 720P eventually.

Upgrade!?!?!?!

HOWLS OF DERISIVE LAUGHTER!!!11!!

How's your data casting business going, bob? I wonder why your website
is still content free. Is there any reason for that, bob?

Matthew

--
I'm a consultant. If you want an opinion I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?

[Bob Miller]

wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:42:50 GMT Bob Miller > wrote:
> | G-squared wrote:
> |> I noticed this at work a couple of days ago. 28-1 used to be HD
> |> content nearly all the time and an HD simulcast of 28-2 SD 480i
> |> running the regular SD programming, same as 28 NTSC. The last few days
> |> 28-2 is black, 28-1 goes HD or SD up-rezzed to HD as needed. I just
> |> now found it to be 720p rather than what it had been, 1080i. Anybody
> |> know anything about this ?
> |>
> |> GG
> |>
> | Most broadcasters will upgrade to 720P eventually.
> |
> | Bob Miller
>
> Or maybe even 1080p in some cases.
>
Someday but not with 6 MHz, 8-VSB and MPEG2.

They who waited will have decent codecs and modulations and will be able
to have 1080P. Like the Chinese and French.

Bob Miller

[Matthew L. Martin]

Bob Miller wrote:
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:42:50 GMT Bob Miller > wrote:
>> | G-squared wrote:
>> |> I noticed this at work a couple of days ago. 28-1 used to be HD
>> |> content nearly all the time and an HD simulcast of 28-2 SD 480i
>> |> running the regular SD programming, same as 28 NTSC. The last few days
>> |> 28-2 is black, 28-1 goes HD or SD up-rezzed to HD as needed. I just
>> |> now found it to be 720p rather than what it had been, 1080i. Anybody
>> |> know anything about this ?
>> |> |> GG
>> |> | Most broadcasters will upgrade to 720P eventually.
>> | | Bob Miller
>>
>> Or maybe even 1080p in some cases.
>>
> Someday but not with 6 MHz, 8-VSB and MPEG2.

I really don't know why you persist in spreading this lie, but you do.

1080p is part of the ATSC standard and will fit quite well in a 6MHz
channel with 8-VSB and MPEG-2. It may actually take less bandwidth than
1080i.

> They who waited will have decent codecs and modulations and will be able
> to have 1080P. Like the Chinese and French.

And those who didn't wait, like the US and Canada.

I already have a 1080p display at home and will soon have a 1080p source.

Matthew

--
I'm a consultant. If you want an opinion I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?

[Tantalust]

"Matthew L. Martin" > wrote in message
...
> Bob Miller wrote:
>> G-squared wrote:
>>> I noticed this at work a couple of days ago. 28-1 used to be HD
>>> content nearly all the time and an HD simulcast of 28-2 SD 480i
>>> running the regular SD programming, same as 28 NTSC. The last few days
>>> 28-2 is black, 28-1 goes HD or SD up-rezzed to HD as needed. I just
>>> now found it to be 720p rather than what it had been, 1080i. Anybody
>>> know anything about this ?
>>>
>>> GG
>>>
>> Most broadcasters will upgrade to 720P eventually.
>
> Upgrade!?!?!?!
>
> HOWLS OF DERISIVE LAUGHTER!!!11!!
>
> How's your data casting business going, bob? I wonder why your website is
> still content free. Is there any reason for that, bob?
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> I'm a consultant. If you want an opinion I'll sell you one.
> Which one do you want?


I guess bob disparages hi-rez because his flakey, mickey-mouse broadcasting
schemes can't handle it.

I guess.

[Sam Spade]

Matthew L. Martin wrote:
..
>
> I already have a 1080p display at home and will soon have a 1080p source.
>
> Matthew
>

Do I presume correctly that 1080P source will be either a high-end
Toshiba HD-DVD or Blueray player? (most Toshiba HD-DVD players do 1080i)

[Matthew L. Martin]

Sam Spade wrote:
> Matthew L. Martin wrote:
> .
>>
>> I already have a 1080p display at home and will soon have a 1080p source.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>
> Do I presume correctly that 1080P source will be either a high-end
> Toshiba HD-DVD or Blueray player? (most Toshiba HD-DVD players do 1080i)

Yeppers. HD-XA2, waiting for the firmware upgrade.

It looks damned good on a 65HM167, too

Matthew

--
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Which one do you want?

[Usenet Reader]

Bob wrote:
> "Mark F" > wrote in message
> ...
>> G-squared > wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed this at work a couple of days ago. 28-1 used to be HD
>>> content nearly all the time and an HD simulcast of 28-2 SD 480i
>>> running the regular SD programming, same as 28 NTSC. The last few days
>>> 28-2 is black, 28-1 goes HD or SD up-rezzed to HD as needed. I just
>>> now found it to be 720p rather than what it had been, 1080i. Anybody
>>> know anything about this ?
>>>
>>> GG
>> I saw this in the AVS forum regarding KCET's digital programming
>> changes, but it says nothing about their switch from 1080i to 720p:
>> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10981004&&#post10981004
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for posting this. I was wondering what had happened, too. It looks
> like we'll have to wait until August and see what they really do. For now,
> it's KOCE, for me.
>
> Bob
>
>
Pay no attention to Sam. I think KOCE is great. Not only to they have
a better picture - but usually better programming.

I check in on KCET when they do their Saturday Night Films, and Once
Upon a Time in America looked great this weekend in full resolution
wide-screen on my 16x9, BUT, they ran the program 20 minutes over the
scheduled time-block, so PVR cut-off well before the end. I think I'm
completely done with KCET now.