Freesat Dish Question

Ed wrote:
On Jun 30, 11:21 am, "John Russell"
wrote:
"Ed" wrote in message

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On Jun 30, 9:39 am, Mike Plowman wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:32:29 -0700 (PDT), Ed
wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:28 am, Ed wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:26 am, Mike Plowman wrote:
And can I therefore assume that there is nothing stopping me using one
of the 2 spare outlets on the LNB to run a cable to a Freesat box
whilst also running the Sky box?
It would be, as they say, a piece of ****. If you can climb a ladder,
the job's a good 'un.
Cheers Mike.
Why are there no Freesat PVRs for sale?
How successful are Freeview PVR's? I'm sure there are sky haters wanting a
Freesat SKY+ but is that the bulk of the target market?

I have Sky+ and am hoping that the second the Freesat PVRs go on sale
sky will drop the £10 a month charge to stop people leaving

They've dropped that already, haven't they?

I don't pay it.

On Jul 1, 11:20*am, JNugent wrote:
Ed wrote:
On Jun 30, 11:21 am, "John Russell"
wrote:
"Ed" wrote in message

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On Jun 30, 9:39 am, Mike Plowman wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:32:29 -0700 (PDT), Ed
wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:28 am, Ed wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:26 am, Mike Plowman wrote:
And can I therefore assume that there is nothing stopping me using one
of the 2 spare outlets on the LNB to run a cable to a Freesat box
whilst also running the Sky box?
It would be, as they say, a piece of ****. If you can climb a ladder,
the job's a good 'un.
Cheers Mike.
Why are there no Freesat PVRs for sale?
How successful are Freeview PVR's? I'm sure there are sky haters wanting a
Freesat SKY+ but is that the bulk of the target market?

I have Sky+ and am hoping that the second the Freesat PVRs go on sale
sky will drop the £10 a month charge to stop people leaving

They've dropped that already, haven't they?

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If you dont have the minimum package you pay £10 a month to use the
recorder

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:20:35 +0100, JNugent wrote:

Ed wrote:
On Jun 30, 11:21 am, "John Russell"
wrote:
"Ed" wrote in message

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On Jun 30, 9:39 am, Mike Plowman wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:32:29 -0700 (PDT), Ed
wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:28 am, Ed wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:26 am, Mike Plowman wrote:
And can I therefore assume that there is nothing stopping me using one
of the 2 spare outlets on the LNB to run a cable to a Freesat box
whilst also running the Sky box?
It would be, as they say, a piece of ****. If you can climb a ladder,
the job's a good 'un.
Cheers Mike.
Why are there no Freesat PVRs for sale?
How successful are Freeview PVR's? I'm sure there are sky haters wanting a
Freesat SKY+ but is that the bulk of the target market?

I have Sky+ and am hoping that the second the Freesat PVRs go on sale
sky will drop the £10 a month charge to stop people leaving

They've dropped that already, haven't they?

I don't pay it.

You pay a Sky subscription of at least 16 pounds per month though don't you?
The Sky+ service is now 'free' but only to Sky subscribers.
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Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

On Jul 1, 11:44*am, Nigel Barker wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:20:35 +0100, JNugent wrote:
Ed wrote:
On Jun 30, 11:21 am, "John Russell"
wrote:
"Ed" wrote in message

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On Jun 30, 9:39 am, Mike Plowman wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:32:29 -0700 (PDT), Ed
wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:28 am, Ed wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:26 am, Mike Plowman wrote:
And can I therefore assume that there is nothing stopping me using one
of the 2 spare outlets on the LNB to run a cable to a Freesat box
whilst also running the Sky box?
It would be, as they say, a piece of ****. If you can climb a ladder,
the job's a good 'un.
Cheers Mike.
Why are there no Freesat PVRs for sale?
How successful are Freeview PVR's? I'm sure there are sky haters wanting a
Freesat SKY+ but is that the bulk of the target market?

I have Sky+ and am hoping that the second the Freesat PVRs go on sale
sky will drop the £10 a month charge to stop people leaving

They've dropped that already, haven't they?

I don't pay it.

You pay a Sky subscription of at least 16 pounds per month though don't you?
The Sky+ service is now 'free' but only to Sky subscribers.
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Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, but it's a damned cheek to charge people to make the box work
given that I supposedly own it

Ed wrote:
On Jun 30, 8:31 pm, "News Reader" wrote:
"Ed" wrote in message

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Is freesat picked up by a sky dish, or does the dish have to be
realigned? In other words, can I pop out to argos, buy a Freesat box
and simply switch it for my current Sky box?
Cheers
Ed
Hi,

Just a quick thought possibly worth mentioning...

... you / it is generally realised I hope that ...

... FreeSat (SD rather than HD) is essentially identical to a Sky box
without a subscription except you get about 800 less channels...?

I.e. switching from Sky to FreeSat will just get you less channels. If you
just cancelled your Sky subscription you could continue using the Sky box
for all the free channels - which is substantially more than are available
using FreeSat.

I.e. everything on FreeSat is available on an unsubscribed Sky box + their
is even more (and a lot more - including interactive services as well as
hundreds of channels) available on the Sky box (with or without an expired
viewing card - and NO subscription - NOTHING to do with Sky... you don't
talk to them or anything... just plug it in [or if you chose to become an
ex-customer.... just leave it plugged in and cancel the service with them
and the rest of it with all the free channels [all those on Freesat + loads
more] continue - just without the paying Sky anything bit).

Hope that makes some sense and might be useful to you or someone.

Best wishes,

News Reader

I'd like a PVR that I dont have to pay £10 a month to use, that picks
up the majority of watchable channels. I have no need for the 800
shopping/god/foreign/E4 **** that infests Sky and supposedly is worth
paying for

The current Humax has the non-freesat FTA channels in a separate "mode",
I believe. Whether that will remain and the PVR have the same
capability, remains to be seen.

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"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:31:39 +0100, "News Reader"
wrote:


"Ed" wrote in message
...

Is freesat picked up by a sky dish, or does the dish have to be
realigned? In other words, can I pop out to argos, buy a Freesat box
and simply switch it for my current Sky box?

Cheers
Ed


Hi,


Just a quick thought possibly worth mentioning...

... you / it is generally realised I hope that ...

... FreeSat (SD rather than HD) is essentially identical to a Sky box
without a subscription except you get about 800 less channels...?

I.e. switching from Sky to FreeSat will just get you less channels. If you
just cancelled your Sky subscription you could continue using the Sky box
for all the free channels - which is substantially more than are available
using FreeSat.

I.e. everything on FreeSat is available on an unsubscribed Sky box + their
is even more (and a lot more - including interactive services as well as
hundreds of channels) available on the Sky box (with or without an expired
viewing card - and NO subscription - NOTHING to do with Sky... you don't
talk to them or anything... just plug it in [or if you chose to become an
ex-customer.... just leave it plugged in and cancel the service with them
and the rest of it with all the free channels [all those on Freesat +
loads
more] continue - just without the paying Sky anything bit).

Hope that makes some sense and might be useful to you or someone.

You cannot however pop into John Lewis, Argos or wherever & buy a Sky
digibox.
You can buy a Freesat box off the shelf.
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Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur


Hi,


Yes indeed... thank you for you and all others replies.

The Sky £75 offer might be comparable value (particularly if you require
install) (obviously and then cancel after the free four months). Otherwise,
their is the "secondhand market" - but that is clearly anything but
convenient or the same as a retail packaged unit available on demand from a
high street retailer, etc.

Main thing from my point, was to make sure you were not going (nor anyone
else was going ) to go and by a FreeSat (SD) unit and expect something that
in fact they would have got more of for less via sticking with their
(cancelled subscription) Sky unit, etc., etc.


Best wishes,




News Reader

"Ed" wrote in message
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On Jul 1, 11:44 am, Nigel Barker wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:20:35 +0100, JNugent wrote:
Ed wrote:
On Jun 30, 11:21 am, "John Russell"
wrote:
"Ed" wrote in message

...
On Jun 30, 9:39 am, Mike Plowman wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:32:29 -0700 (PDT), Ed
wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:28 am, Ed wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:26 am, Mike Plowman wrote:
And can I therefore assume that there is nothing stopping me using
one
of the 2 spare outlets on the LNB to run a cable to a Freesat box
whilst also running the Sky box?
It would be, as they say, a piece of ****. If you can climb a ladder,
the job's a good 'un.
Cheers Mike.
Why are there no Freesat PVRs for sale?
How successful are Freeview PVR's? I'm sure there are sky haters
wanting a
Freesat SKY+ but is that the bulk of the target market?

I have Sky+ and am hoping that the second the Freesat PVRs go on sale
sky will drop the £10 a month charge to stop people leaving

They've dropped that already, haven't they?

I don't pay it.

You pay a Sky subscription of at least 16 pounds per month though don't
you?
The Sky+ service is now 'free' but only to Sky subscribers.
--

Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, but it's a damned cheek to charge people to make the box work
given that I supposedly own it

It's in the same league as finding your BBC Freesat box can't be upgraded
to allow you to subscribe to Sky or Satanta once you you realise how crap
most of the free channels are.

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:09:10 +0100, Mike Plowman
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:56:06 -0700 (PDT), Ed
wrote:

Why are there no Freesat PVRs for sale?

I have no idea. Seems bloody stupid planning. Humax are supposed ot be
launching one but when is anybody's guess.

I asked Freesat about this a couple of weeks ago, and was told "Humax
will be releasing their freesat digital television recorder in the
third quater of 2008. We recommend that you keep checking our website
for any updates."

Peter.

Erm - are we forgetting the far superior Tivo here? Tivo is still an option
in the UK. OK there is no new hardware but if you have a thomson PVR - then
you are sorted - best interface by far!
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"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:05:26 GMT, (Zero
Tolerance)
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:17:39 +0200, Nigel Barker
wrote:

The Sky EPG is poor. It is 10 years old & has never been updated. Slow,
clunky
& ugly. A decent computer based PVR has a far better EPG.

Sure. But name any set top box with a better EPG than Sky?

(BT Vision possibly, but that doesn't count.)

If you are talking about the UK market only then that may be true which is
a
pretty sad state of affairs.

Take a look at what DirecTV do in the US.
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global...64992194207323
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Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Nigel Barker wrote:

Krustov wrote:

John Russell Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:21:24 +0100 wrote:

How successful are Freeview PVR's?

They're very good!


The biggest gripe seems to be that most freeview pvrs dont have a series
link - and the epg on freeview boxes is nowhere near as good as skys .

The Sky EPG is poor. It is 10 years old & has never been updated. Slow,
clunky & ugly. A decent computer based PVR has a far better EPG.

I don't know how bad the Sky EPG is, but I now have a Sony PVR and the
Freeview EPG is excellent; it most certainly does have series link.


Fliss

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